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Message ID: 2630     Entry time: Thursday, July 04, 2024, 01:20
Author: Carla Babcock 
Category: ITE 
Type: Development 
Module: TM3 
Target/Number: SiC#46 
Subject: TM3 conditioning with protons 

Initial Summary:

TM3 sparking behaviour in ITE has been very disruptive both with and without protons. Protons are at 60uA, target heater at 540A. Max voltage achieved so far is 51kV, limited by time and a current limit on the BIAS supply.

The ITE:EL trips off every couple of minutes. Just needs to be restarted. Mike investigated and found that the trip is happening inside the power supply, then a moment later the canbus is defining the supply off when it cant get it to respond. Trip frequency decreased over time but still disruptive.

All the waterflow signals, including ones controlled in the cyclotron system, were tripping off regularly. These have all been forced, then we implemented a 5s delay in the ISAC waterflow interlocks. This seems to have solved the issue.

The ITE:BIAS supply has also been limited at 500uA instead of 5mA. Probably something hardcoded into the canbus - this was fixed by Keiko and the hardcode limit was set to 20%(?) of 5mA.

 

TM3 has been very sparky, even at low voltages. I can't understand why. A new ground path would be explicable but the excessive sparking is difficult to understand.

Possible avenues:

  1. make sure the module outer surface is connected through a copper sheet to the sheet on the wall.
  2. check that special ground still grounds all the gnd power supplies in the electrical room - this I checked but some of the grounds are connected through wires instead of sheets, this can be improved.
  3. try running the module with only HV hooked up and nothing else.
  4. try running TM3 in ITW.
  5. Search work permits and shutdown jobs for any changes made to the system that could affect this.
  6. hope there is a software solution for the EL problem, or start moving towards PLC control - no software solution because the canbus card is only reacting to the power supply refusing to turn on, so it seems the issue originates in the PSU. Moving to PLC is possible but may not help and increases the risk of frying the PLC module.
  7. Add a spark gap or limiting resistor to the EL somewhere. Resistor only helpful if the EL itself is sparking. Difficult to find a spot for the spark gap.
  8. Get a bipolar supply that can sink the current of a spark and replace the EL supply. - Tomislav doesn't seem to think this is viable.
  9. Add protection on the controls cables.

 

Spark recording:

60uA/50kV/540A July 3 02:30 - 05:30 : average of 50 sparks per hour. data file https://isacwserv.triumf.ca/onlylocal/isacdata/ITE_TM3_SiC46_HVConditioning_2_20240704

60uA/32kV/540A July 3 19:15 - July 3 21:45 : average of 8.4 sparks per hour. data file https://isacwserv.triumf.ca/onlylocal/isacdata/ITE_TM3_SiC46_HPSIS_HVConditioning_20240704

50uA/42.8kV/540A July 4 8pm - July 5 2pm : average of 20 sparks per hour, or if you cut out the last two hour that were very sparky, 14 sparks per hour. data file http://isacwserv.triumf.ca/onlylocal/isacdata/TM3commissioning_July4_52024.dat

50uA/42.8kV/540A July 8 00:00 - July 8 18:00 : average of 3.4 sparks per hour. data file http://isacwserv.triumf.ca/onlylocal/isacdata/TM3commissioning_July82024.dat

50uA/42.8kV/540A July 10 10am - 3pm : 3.6 sparks per hour

50uA/53kV/540A July 17 5am - 10am : 4 sparks per hour

45uA/53kV/540A July 20 8pm - July 21 6:30am : 24 sparks in 11 hrs, avg 2.2 sparks per hour.

 

 

EL trip recording (first 2 entries from the archiver, verify with ops elog):

50uA.42.8kV/540A July 4 23:00 - July 5 16:00 : 9 trips, average 0.5 trips per hour

50uA/42.8kV/540A July 6 12:00 - July 7 03:00 : 6 trips with 2.5hrs off, average 0.5 trips per hour

50uA/42.8kV/540A July 7 05:00 - July 8 18:00 : no trips in past 30hrs. Last trip July 7 at 3am.

50uA/42.8kV/540A July 10 3pm - still no EL trips

50uA/53kV/540A July 16 8pm - July 17 10am : 3 trips in 6 hrs. Note cable in EL circuit got burned so EL is running at only ~4kV

45uA/53kV/540A July 17 3pm - July 18 9:30am : 7 trips in 18hrs

45uA/53kV/540A July20 14:00 - July 21 6:30 : 5 trips in ~17hrs

 

2024-11-15 EDIT, Alexander Shkuratoff:

I was not involved in this run, but I have gone through all the Elogs for TM3 up to this point and summarized all the data dumps at the bottom, so I may as well do it here.

[   ] ITE_TM3_SiC46_HPSIS_HVConditioning_20240704 2024-07-04 01:42 4.8M
[   ] ITE_TM3_SiC46_HVConditioning_Vac_20240704 2024-07-04 01:59 5.3M
[   ] ITE_TM3_SiC46_HVConditioning_2_20240704 2024-07-04 05:31 1.1M
[   ] TM3commissioning_July32024.dat 2024-07-04 17:04 11M
[   ] TM3commissioning_July4_52024.dat 2024-07-05 14:18 12M
[   ] TM3commissioning_July82024.dat 2024-07-08 18:03 13M

 Additionally, there is no Elog entry for August 18, 2024 for which TM3 commissioning continued in ITW, but I have found the following StripTool data:

[   ] TM3commissioning_Aug182024.dat 2024-08-18 05:37 14M  
[   ] TM3commissioning_Aug182024_2.dat 2024-08-19 06:16 14M  

 

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